While Congress and State legislators are usually hamstrung on what to do, people at or close to a school should be thinking about solutions. The proposal to bring in armed guards, or to train teachers to shoot and allow them to bring in weapons, would be a mistake.

Using teachers as gunmen is ludicrous, and the presence of visibly-armed guards is off-putting, at best. It is dangerous to think that meeting fire-with-fire is the way to go when civilians are present. Police try not to put citizens at risk if they have alternative means to control the situation, such as hostage negotiations, smoke or noise infiltration, sharpshooters, etc. More guns bring more bullets, more injuries, and more deaths.

Look, there is very little that could be done once an out-of-control shooter is on the premises without creating more problems and deaths. Horrific shootings also occur at concerts, movie theatres, and elsewhere. Clearly, the only way public places and schools could be relatively safe is if guns and potential shooters stay miles apart. Here are my recommendations to help do this:

(1) Children should not have guns. They are not ready for the responsibility, unless totally trained and controlled (e.g. while in military service).
(2) Many others should not have access to guns either. Besides the obvious (convicted felons, gang members, mentally ill patients, dishonorably discharged veterans, people on terrorist watch lists or no fly lists, people who have posted threats on social media), judges should have the right to suspend gun licenses and take guns away from those who have verbally threatened others (e.g., those under restraining orders).
(3) Civilians should not own automatic weapons, nor the means to create such weapons. The second amendment was written when muskets shot 3 bullets per minute and handguns held 6 bullets.
(4) If I had my way, I would carry that ban to semi-automatic weapons, but at a minimum, semi-automatic magazines should be limited in size (typical 10 round mag) with extended time to replace a spent magazine with a new one. This might give time for people to tackle the intruder or get the hell away.

Of course there are many other measures which would also help keep us safe. While I realize that people kill people, I would rather have a knife coming at me than an AR-15. Maybe that's just me.

Peter Astor is a retired professor, high school teacher, and consultant to government; August is a retired professor and 19 year member of a public school Board of Education

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The Time for Civilians to Own AR-15s Is Over
Let's have at least a modicum of common sense

By Ben Stein
THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR
February 20, 2018

Presidents' Day. I keep thinking that when I was a lad growing up in Silver Spring, Maryland, just across the Potomac, in Virginia, they also got to celebrate January 19, or the closest Monday day to it, as Robert E. Lee's Birthday. They got school off, which seemed like a great deal. It's hard to imagine that would happen now. Or is it? It turns out that Lee's birthday is still a state holiday in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, and Mississippi. In a real stunning statement of how America has changed, it's sometimes combined with Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday to make the holiday. Sometimes "Stonewall" Jackson's birthday is tossed in there, too. What an amazingly flexible country this is.

And here's something else as to which we need some change. It's about guns.

Now, I'm a Second Amendment guy. I believe Americans who are sane and not criminals and pass a genuine background test should be allowed to own weapons for home protection and for target shooting and for self-defense. That makes perfect sense to me. How many of us are able to take on a strong young home intruder with our feeble old arms? But how much more fair the story is when you take the handiwork of Smith & Wesson out of your night stand?

So, owning a gun seems like a fairly good idea. And allowing grown men and women who pass strict tests to carry them either openly or in concealed carry makes sense, too. If you want to feel protected, you want to feel protected all of the time.

But for the life of me, I cannot see why any American civilians need an AR-15 or any other military-style semi-automatic rifle. I understand why people want them. It makes your ordinary nerdy guy seem like he's tough and rough and ready. It makes him feel as if he's got some part of him that's always steely and ready for action. But that's not enough reason to own a gun that just begs to be used against people.

If you look at an AR-15 or any other similar weapon, it doesn't look like it's made for hunting. It doesn't look like it's made for target shooting. No, it's made to kill other people. At least that's what it looks like.

It looks like weapons in newsreels used to kill insurgents. It looks like weapons used in disgusting, violent video games to kill people. It looks as if it won't ever be happy until you use it to kill someone.

I understand the Second Amendment arguments about semi-automatic military style weapons bans: if you let the camel put his nose under the tent, pretty soon he's walking off with the tent. If you let the government ban the AR-15 and its many cousins, are automatic pistols next? Are shotguns next? Where is the stopping point?

We don't know. But private ownership of machine guns has been mostly illegal in the U.S. since 1934 and almost completely illegal since 1986. Yet men and women can own guns of almost any description right now. There is a stopping point at which reasonable people agree that enough is enough.

We've passed that point with the sporterized assault rifles. We're way past that point. Yes, better background checks would be great. An FBI and a BATF that worked would be fine. But we can make it simpler than that. Let's just stop selling AR-15s at stores or at gun shows or anywhere. There have been too many innocent people killed by too many insane people who could not have done it without the AR-15 or its copycats. We love the right to bear arms. We used to love our assault rifle substitutes. But Madison and Jefferson did not intend that insane people should have access to weapons of mass destruction to use at high schools and rock concerts.

We've seen the hell that these devices can cause in the hands of any of the millions of maniacs out there. We don't need any more proof. Let's have at least a modicum of common sense. The time for civilians to own AR-15s is over. No issues about background checks. Just no more manufacturing or selling of AR-15s. Period.

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